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Exponential Potential: How Financial Literacy Leads to Growth

• Alfonso Cuadra • Season 2 • Episode 10

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 Adriana shares her remarkable journey from immigrating to Canada from Brazil at age 13 with her single mother and sister to becoming a successful real estate investor.

The discussion delves into Adriana's early challenges, including learning a new language, working night shifts at McDonald's at 14, and the cultural shock of adapting to life in Canada. She recounts her humble beginnings, her early work experiences, and the pivotal moments that shaped her resilient work ethic.

Adriana narrates how she and her husband transitioned into real estate, inspired by working with a couple who flipped high-end homes. Despite initial financial constraints and skepticism from others, Adriana's determination led her to invest in real estate education, convert her first townhouse into a legal duplex, and persist through numerous challenges with city permits.

The episode is a testament to the power of resilience, strategic thinking, and relentless pursuit of one's goals. Adriana emphasizes the importance of asking the right questions, not taking no for an answer, and continuously seeking solutions to overcome obstacles.

Join Alfonso and Adriana as they explore themes of ambition, community, and success in multifamily real estate investing, offering listeners valuable insights and inspiration for their own journeys.


Adriana Ostapenko is the Founder of Ace Properties, an Asset Management Company specialized in a diversified portfolio of well performing Multifamily Properties. She co-owns, alongside her husband, a construction company in the Greater Toronto Area, and TurnKey Virtual Agency, supporting small and mid-sized business growth and scale. 

Adriana is a mother of two and is passionate about helping families build wealth using Real Estate and sharing her story to inspire and educate others. Adriana

also has extensive experience with Property Management, owning her own management company for over 6 years.

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SPEAKERS

Alfonso Cuadra, Carl Richards, Adriana Ostapenk

Carl Richards  00:05

Welcome to the WealthGenius podcast! The WealthGenius Podcast; strategies for multifamily real estate investing, mindset, community, success. The WealthGenius Podcast with your host, The Godfather of Real Estate, Alfonso Cuadra, who has expansive experience in business and massive success as a real estate investor. The WealthGenius podcast, let's dive in to today's episode.

Alfonso Cuadra  00:33

Hello! My good friend Adriana is here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Last night, I saw a clip of us just coming out of COVID I think I want to say it was 2020. But I'm not sure it could have been 2021. You know, a lot has happened since that video, you know, but I sent it to you just to say, "You know what I'm watching you." And I wanted you on this podcast, because we're having interesting conversations, and you're an interesting person. And not only that, you inspire a lot of people, you know, you're a rock star. So thank you for coming.

Adriana Ostapenk  01:12

I appreciate you and that podcast that we recorded together. So many people have reached out to me from that. Just saying how incredible that conversation life changing it was. 

Alfonso Cuadra  01:25

Yeah yeah yeah, it was fun!

Adriana Ostapenk  01:26

 So I'm excited to do this again.

Alfonso Cuadra  01:28

Yeah, and we're gonna do it many more times. 

Adriana Ostapenk  01:31

Yes, yes, yes! 

Alfonso Cuadra  01:32

But I want people to get a sense of who you are. There's many parts of Adriana, you know, you got the business hat you got the investor hat, you got the mom hat. You got all these hats, right. But we'll talk about real estate as well. But that's not the only thing you do. But how did all this get started?

Adriana Ostapenk  01:50

Yeah. Craziness. I immigrated from Brazil at 13. 

Alfonso Cuadra  01:56

Brazil! 

Adriana Ostapenk  01:57

"Brasileira", with a single mom and my sister, the three of us came. It was crazy times. You know.

Alfonso Cuadra  02:04

I don't think I've met your sister. 

Adriana Ostapenk  02:06

Huh. 

Alfonso Cuadra  02:06

Have I met your sister?

Adriana Ostapenk  02:07

I don't think so. 

Alfonso Cuadra  02:08

I can't picture a sister. Wow. Okay. So is she older?

Adriana Ostapenk  02:13

She's a bit older, not by a lot. But yeah, a couple of years older than me.

Alfonso Cuadra  02:18

So I need to meet your sister.

Adriana Ostapenk  02:20

You should! 

Alfonso Cuadra  02:20

And your mom. 

Adriana Ostapenk  02:21

And my mom. I'll bring her over. 

Alfonso Cuadra  02:23

Yes. 

Adriana Ostapenk  02:24

Yes. really challenging times was really tough. We kind of left everything in Brazil immigrated here, you know, started from scratch. I didn't speak the language. We didn't really- we came from really humble beginnings, so.

Alfonso Cuadra  02:37

What gave you guys the idea to come to Canada in the first place? 

Adriana Ostapenk  02:40

My mom is really ambitious. And she really wanted a better life. Like that was all there was to it. She's like, "I know, there has to be something more." And then just society to come. And it was very quick transition coming here. 

Alfonso Cuadra  02:54

How old were you? 

Adriana Ostapenk  02:55

I was 13. 

Alfonso Cuadra  02:56

Wow. 

Adriana Ostapenk  02:57

Yes.

Alfonso Cuadra  02:57

Wow. It's really interesting because you had to learn the language?

Adriana Ostapenk  03:02

Yes. No English whatsoever. had never seen snow in my life came from a really hot spot in Brazil. So definitely shocking, in so many ways, culturally, obviously. And had to really figure it out. How do I put myself back together and how to create a new identity at the end of the day. My mom never really again, humble beginnings started working very early first job at 14 out of the house at 18. Really taking care of myself very early on. 

Alfonso Cuadra  03:35

Yeah, you had to like adjust to school. And did you like get a job? Or what did you end up doing?

Adriana Ostapenk  03:43

Yeah, so my first job was at McDonald's, a 14 working the overnight shifts. So they put you on a rotation when you first started there, you have to take the worst shift ever which was the overnight. I would go to work and then wake up the next day and go to school. And like walk to school and take the bus with my sister. Like it was just just such crazy times looking back now. 

But you know, it gave me that first experience of like working and making my own money. That's what I used to buy my textbooks, my uniform for school, my shoes, anything that I needed. I took care of it myself. My mom said I'll take care of rents, I'll take care of food. Everything else is on your girls go work. We'll make some money and go, you know, pay for yourself.

Alfonso Cuadra  04:29

Nice. And I think it really created a work ethic in you. I like McDonald's. It's a good training program in terms of getting young people to work. My oldest went through McDonald's and they're just really good at getting young people to work. And it's kind of like a long lost art. I see a lot of 14-15 year olds are just like, they're still playing video games and stuff like that. So it's definitely I can see the work ethic in you that you know, at 14-15 You're getting out there and working. So what happened after that?

Adriana Ostapenk  05:00

Fast forward to like married life now, a few years later, my husband and I got married. Again, still humble beginnings. He's an immigrant as well. It took us about seven years to save enough money to a down payment for a house. After we paid some school debts. We got a townhouse in Mississauga living there had two kids, two little ones. 

My mom went through a mental health crisis at the time, and had to move in with us. And for the first time, in a long time, I thought, "Whoa, not only do I have to take care of my little ones here, I have to take care of my mom. I know, she doesn't have much for retirement. She's moved in with me. How the heck do people do this?" Because we're working regular jobs, you know, making like a 3% increase a year? 

I'm like, how do you create wealth that goes beyond, you know, my immediate family beyond my immediate needs? How do I create wealth that's going to over pour into my family, my mom, and you know, other people around me? 

Alfonso Cuadra  05:28

And so you got this crazy idea of real estate? Like? Literally, you know, like, usually people don't associate, you know, connect those two, right? People say, "Okay, I gotta get more jobs." 

Adriana Ostapenk  06:18

Yeah!

Alfonso Cuadra  06:18

That's what I see a lot of immigrant people- and obviously, I come from that background as well, it's like they see- they look at, you know, the only answer is getting more jobs, right. So you got to work, you go to work, and then you go to another job. But you said, "I want to do this real estate thing." So like, what happened?

Adriana Ostapenk  06:35

Very, very good question. Because I- that was the first time or one of the first times that I had to make such a shift in how I thought, I knew that there was no way, even if I had added another job, or I had got job promotions or whatever, that I was going to be able to make enough money to support myself and my mom and my kids. And I thought there has to be another way people do this differently. 

There's no way that we can spend another seven years trying to save for another home. So I did start to very intentionally look and become aware, where do I see wealth around me who has money around me, not the people that I was hanging out with at the time because we didn't have much either. So not by chance, really intentionally. We started working for a couple that were doing high end flips in Caledon. And I went to their home and it was beautiful.

Alfonso Cuadra  07:30

So you were working? You're just doing admin stuff, or what are we doing? 

Adriana Ostapenk  07:33

Yeah, so my husband has a construction business has had it for a long time, he had transitioned from working for somebody to opening his own business around the same time, and got hired to work doing tile installations for this massive, beautiful home in Caledon. And he said to me, like "you need to come see this house." We have never been in a house like that before. 

I'm like, "I'm coming. I'm coming to take pictures of your work. Like I'm coming." I got there. And I met the lady, the owner and I started to ask her a lot of questions. I'm like, "Tell me more. What's going on here." She's like, "Yeah, we flip these homes, we move in. We do full renovations. My family lives here. We sell, we do it again. And we've been able to do five of those. 

And every time we do it, we get like an even bigger home and even nicer home." And she was doing to me at the time felt like crazy numbers, spending $200,000 on the landscaping alone, and doing all these crazy things. And I thought "real estate huh? Like there's something here I see wealth in real estates." 

Alfonso Cuadra  08:33

Yeah. 

Adriana Ostapenk  08:34

So I immediately went home researched, found an educational program, just like WealthGenius that taught people how to do real estate for investing. And I thought this is where I'm gonna get started. 

Alfonso Cuadra  08:47

Yeah. And now that you got the education, mindset has to change. What did your mom say about it by the way? I'm curious because I know what my mom said!

Adriana Ostapenk  08:56

I didn't tell anybody, I did not tell anybody about this. They did not know for- 

Alfonso Cuadra  09:01

Friends didn't know. 

Adriana Ostapenk  09:02

Nobody knew. It was Anton and my husband and I.

Alfonso Cuadra  09:05

So what was your concern like, in letting people know that you're doing this? 

Adriana Ostapenk  09:09

They were gonna discourage me. They were gonna think I was crazy that I had joined a cult you know like, like, I just thought that nobody was going to understand me. 

Alfonso Cuadra  09:19

Yeah. And so you're doing the secret? The secret life, moonlighting real estate Moonlighter. And you're still working full time? Yes, yes. And what your first deal? And when was the point where you said, I'm going all in here like I want to go in guns blazing.

Adriana Ostapenk  09:38

I decided very early on I do make decisions quite fast. When I went to the weekend workshop, I decided there then because there was an investment to join, you know, and get coaching. And I thought we literally scraped every bank account we had the cost was $15,000. We did not have that. We had like $4000 in the savings account. We had a $7,000 line of credit. We call Anton's Dad, can you lend us some money so we could buy this membership? And once we put the money together, I'm like, This is it. I don't have an option here. I'm like literally-

Alfonso Cuadra  10:13

Like, we're burning the boats. Like we're not going back.

Adriana Ostapenk  10:16

Yes! I'm literally all in, I'm gonna have to make this work. My very first deal or which I feel like a lot of people started there. We had a townhouse in Mississauga that we converted into a legal duplex. It was a challenge in and of itself, because it was a townhouse, I had to go to the city about nine times to get through the process of even converting that house into a duplex. And that was our first experience with permits and getting in like rezoned, and really getting a tenant in there and becoming landlords for the first time. 

Alfonso Cuadra  10:49

And so I know the story. I want to go to never giving up, you know, because I know that it wasn't just like you did this, he did a conversion. That was all like rainbows. I know that the city told you no. 

Adriana Ostapenk  11:04

Many times. 

Alfonso Cuadra  11:05

And so let's say someone's watching this right now. And they're trying to make this transition. Right. And we're everywhere they go, it just seems like no one is, you know, interest rates are high, or there's not enough properties or where they live, it's too expensive, or all of the obstacles that everyone's going to face. 

I'm from- I come from the belief that, you know, sometimes you're tested to see if you because you said I'm in, right, you invested in yourself. And you said I'm all in. But are you really? Right. And so people are tested. And I want to see like what was inside you that kept you going? Right? So first of all, tell that story. What happened, there was a- you went to the city, and they they didn't give you the permit.

Adriana Ostapenk  11:52

So it started with calling the designer to get the drawings going for us. He came to visit the house and he walked in and he's like, No, you can't like do a secondary unit here. And my favorite saying and I still use today is why not? I'm like, immediately challenged him, he's like, well, you don't have a separate entrance. 

I'm like, how about if the entrance is over here? Okay, let me look downstairs. There's not enough windows. There's like, what about if we move this over here? And why not do it this way? And slowly by asking questions he's like, okay, that's fine. I'll produce the drawings, but I don't think the city is going to approve. Well, I'm like, Okay, let's do it. Go get me those drawings. 

Let me get to the next step. When I had the drawings we submitted to the city, they got a notice saying like, this is not acceptable. I took notes of what they had said, booked a meeting and went to the city hall never been there before. And I'm like, I'd love to talk to somebody here and find out what's going on and why it's not. And that was the same question. 

Why not? One of the things they brought up was a parking issue. It was now it's going to be a two family home, but we only had one parking. And they said, Okay, can you show me the bylaw, where it says that it's not allowed, he opens the bylaw. And it says there that the year that that started to be in effect. And my house had been grandfathered in. 

Alfonso Cuadra  12:12

Wow. 

Adriana Ostapenk  12:28

If I hadn't asked him to even show me where that was, we wouldn't have come down to that. He noticed that himself when he was reading it

Alfonso Cuadra  13:22

Successful people ask the right questions is where they get the right answers. Right. So you were asking the right questions. Why not?

Adriana Ostapenk  13:30

Why not? And not taking no for an answer too, I still implement this in my business daily. Because at the end of the day, we face challenges every day, there's always something you know me really well, you know, the things that happen in my business. And there's always a way, there's always a solution. 

There's always a best case scenario. And it's easy to get bogged down, and you know, terrified and paralyzed by the hardships. And that's really not where my focus I want- and sometimes I go there sometimes I take a moment to be like, okay, but then I like need to come back up to a place where I see and I'm aware of the solutions have the right strategies to get me to the place that I want to go.

Alfonso Cuadra  14:16

Sometimes the person in front of you has had a long day has had a long career and it gets to the point where they just don't want to think anymore, right? And it's easier to say it's not possible, and to shoo you away, than for you to come and start pointing things out. But what about this? What about that? What about this? What about that? Right? It's like you're someone's worst nightmare. 

But we're not taught that as kids. You know, my mom always told me, "Alfonso, shh!" you know, because I was a curious kid. You know, like, if I'm at the doctor's office, I'm asking 100 questions. And my mom's like, no, no, no, don't ask questions. You know, like, if someone's in a position of authority, we're not supposed to ask, right? We're supposed to just take whatever they have to say, you know? And if more people had that attitude, then you would get a lot more things done, right? 

And it's not because people don't want to give you the answers is because they're human beings, human beings try to take the path of least resistance. And if it means that we have to do this change things around. It's not possible, honey, it's not possible, right? Until someone questions, you know, question is, that's a, that's a great habit to build, you know, to question things. It's so valuable. So then what?

Adriana Ostapenk  15:36

So we had nine meetings with this person, and you said they must have not liked me. I have a way about me that is very friendly and nice and positive. And Good energy.

Alfonso Cuadra  15:49

You melted their hearts!

Adriana Ostapenk  15:51

I always do. This is like Conflict Resolution 101. Okay, I really appeal to- because I love people, and I'm not there to disrespect anybody. I'm not there to be confrontational. I'm there to literally like, ask the questions, explain why it's important to me. And, you know, get to their like, human side, too, because like you said, they're humans. 

Alfonso Cuadra  16:13

Yeah. 

Adriana Ostapenk  16:13

So I think that really works to my advantage in a lot of lot of business situations. And we really, eventually, he said, "Okay, this is it. I've gone through everything. We've revised everything, we check the bylaw, and we are approving your duplex."

Alfonso Cuadra  16:30

Whoo! No, but think about it. Before that, how many times could you have like said, "Okay, then I'm done. This is not gonna work. Right?"

Adriana Ostapenk  16:40

You asked the question earlier, like, what was it in you, that made you keep going and my desire to experience a different reality was so great. And I just, I could see that there wasn't- like, I just- it was so visible to me, I became so aware that there was something else and it was a different reality, that I just knew I was gonna- I had to get there. I didn't know how, but I knew like, there was something there. And I just had to keep moving forward until you know, I got there.

Alfonso Cuadra  17:11

It's like, if you're going from here to Kingston, and it's the middle of the night, and all you have is the lights that are in front of you. You have to trust that, you know, if you take the 401, eventually you're gonna get there, right. But you don't know if there's going to be deers jumping in the in the way you don't know if there's going to be a traffic jam, you don't know any of that. You can only see the you know, whatever. How many feet in front of you.

Adriana Ostapenk  17:35

 Have faith. Yes. 

Alfonso Cuadra  17:36

Yeah. I love it. And so now, this is your first deal.

Adriana Ostapenk  17:41

Yes. 

Alfonso Cuadra  17:42

Hardly anything to retire from? 

Adriana Ostapenk  17:45

Far from it, yes. 

Alfonso Cuadra  17:47

But you accomplished- first of all, you learned that number one, you're not taking no for an answer. And number two, you now have one more door than you had before. 

Adriana Ostapenk  17:59

Yeah, it gave us our start. As little as that was give us our start let that's out of that house. We were able to we ended up selling it after a certain time. And that was our initial capital. From those two units. We grew to 20 units.

Alfonso Cuadra  18:16

Wow. Yeah. And so at what point did you say to yourself, I'm good at this, like this is, you said at the very beginning, but you still didn't know what was in front of you. But now there's gotta be a point where you just like kind of wake up one day and you're like, I'm leaning into this big time like this is this is who I am.

Adriana Ostapenk  18:36

I like to think that I really take one day at a time and prioritize progress and prioritize the journey in so many ways, because I didn't know- I still don't know fully what's gonna happen next. But I have so much confidence and trust, I think everything that I've been through, from really early on until now gave me so much confidence that one, I'm going to be okay, I'm going to be okay. Two, I can do this, I can figure things out. I have so much confidence in my ability to intuitively know what's best for me. 

And what's best for the people around me. Because that's a huge motivation for me. I look at the people around me, and I'm like, How can I serve you? That gives me so much motivation to keep going and grow myself? My kids now a huge motivation. And my main concept is, how do I be the example I can sit here and talk to you about like doing your homework or eating healthy or doing all these things? Or I can go be it and be that example that you need to see. And you know, speak from a place of nice knowing inside of me.

Alfonso Cuadra  19:43

How old are your kids right now?

Adriana Ostapenk  19:44

They're eight and 10.

Alfonso Cuadra  19:46

What type of conversations that you're having at home. I'm assuming you didn't have the kind of conversations when you were a kid. But you said 8 and- 10 and 8? 

Adriana Ostapenk  19:56

Yes, 

Alfonso Cuadra  19:56

Yeah. So 10 and 8 is a ripe age. I mean the their minds- they're just, they're just being molded. You're now molding these minds. So what kind of games are you playing? Do you talk about money? Do you don't talk about money? Are you showing them what you're doing? Like what's going on at home?

Adriana Ostapenk  20:12

Yeah. So it's so interesting with kids, because they'll have, you don't always notice that they're watching you until they come out and tell you things and you're like, "Oh, my God, this is like my mirror," like, definitely a reflection of me talking back to me. I send my kids over for a sleepover last year to a friend's house, and they got back and when my friends were dropping them back, the comment they made was your kids talk a lot about money. 

And I thought, Okay, that's interesting comments. I'm like, I don't like it felt a little judgmental in nature, the comments. But I'm like, I don't know what else to say. We're business owners. Here. We have investors, my daughter really small used to get her play phone and be like, I'm talking to my investors on the phone, you know? Isn't that amazing? So she's an investor with us. I- She learned the concept of private lending last summer, and it rocked her world. 

She heard me talking to somebody about private lending, asked about it, I explained. And she said, "Hold on. So you're saying that if I give you my birthday money, I can go chill in my room, and I'm making money every month and there's just like this interest coming?" I'm like, "yes, yes. That's kind of how it works. You need to do due diligence and stuff." Got her a contract she signed, I explained it to her every 15th of every month. She's like, "Is my interest here yet?" 

Alfonso Cuadra  21:34

Wow. 

Adriana Ostapenk  21:36

She remember- I never remind her she comes right up to me. Well, how much was my interest? And I want to reinvest you can put it right back in there just want to make more money. 

Alfonso Cuadra  21:45

Yeah, it's so funny, because, you know, this didn't exist in my household, right? But you're in control, you're, you're actually in control of breaking cycles, the more that this becomes normalized, the easier is going to be for them in the future, because they just, we came with the stigma, but they don't need that stigma. You know, they don't have that stigma.

Adriana Ostapenk  22:06

There's such a powerful lesson in here, that you don't have to live your life by simply observing your current reality. In fact, I try to spend so much of my time doing the opposite, and really imagining building living a future that I want to have.

Alfonso Cuadra  22:23

And what is the what is the present look like for you like, what do you got going on? You got buildings, you got companies construction. Give us  a scope of so we saw where you where you came from, but give us the scope of where you're at right now.

Adriana Ostapenk  22:37

Yeah, amazing. So I own an asset management company now, we have about 160 units that we-

Alfonso Cuadra  22:46

Whoo!

Adriana Ostapenk  22:46

-That we have under management. We have a development project and we're also applying to develop 72 units, multifamily apartment buildings. We have a few construction projects on the go as well. I co own the construction company with my husband, it's really his baby. It's his day today. And I'm there to support in any way that I can. And I have also virtual agency. So it's just a staffing just as a staffing agency that helps mid to small sized businesses with anything back ends because I needed all the help as I was building my businesses. And I thought How do I offer this services to other people?

Alfonso Cuadra  23:27

We all need it. You know, so I've done lots of these interviews and common theme. Everyone says, The bookkeeping killed me. The bookkeeping killed me, the bookkeep- so save us from the bookkeeping. What's going on? What what? It's how have you solved this problem for us?

Adriana Ostapenk  23:47

This is our most on demand service of everything. I actually had a meeting with a bookkeeping team today. Honestly, I felt the same in conversations with investors. First of all, I saw the struggles myself, I'm like, I need so much done for my company, we run a finance company here, like who's dealing with all the numbers, who's making all the payments, who's keeping spreadsheets and paying investors and doing T5s and like, you know, accounting? 

How do I receive the data in a way that will allow me to make decisions in my business? Yeah, you can give me a profit and loss statements. I'm like, Okay, that's cool. And maybe to the accountant that's really interesting. And I'll look at and once in a while, but that's not really giving me the information that I need. 

How do you get my books and provide me information around like, what's my vacancy rate this month? What's my repairs and maintenance budget? Is there any bill that's gone above and beyond? No one's tracking on so I'm like, How do I create a system? That once a month, I'll meet with my financial partners, we'll go over our finances for our buildings, and I'm able to have real lifetime information that matters and allows me to make decisions about my businesses.

Alfonso Cuadra  24:56

So there was a problem that you had. 

Adriana Ostapenk  24:58

Yes.

Alfonso Cuadra  24:59

You were looking for a solution, it didn't exist. So you created the solution. And you thought, hey, everyone else could have this the same results. I love it. I love it. Never take no for an answer. And you know, if you see a problem, make a company out of it.

Adriana Ostapenk  25:16

 Right? isn't that the whole point of business, really solve problems? Yeah, 

Alfonso Cuadra  25:21

No, it looks like you're having an amazing time. So what's next?

Adriana Ostapenk  25:25

What's next?

Alfonso Cuadra  25:26

 For you, yeah. 

Adriana Ostapenk  25:27

Yeah. So I feel really called to share my message more. I really feel called to I've come from a background. I was a pastor for a few years in my life. 

Alfonso Cuadra  25:39

Oh, my God, I can't believe how long we've known each other. And I'm just learning about this. What's wrong with you? You have never shared that with me.

Adriana Ostapenk  25:49

I've only recently started to share about this more, I know!

Alfonso Cuadra  25:54

And this is how you share it. I didn't know. I didn't know. That's amazing. That's amazing. You know, that's amazing. And so this need to share and help other people. And you have helped a lot of people. And not only have you received messages from our last, you know, conversation that we had on my YouTube channel, but I as well, you know, and every time I talk about you, everyone's like, Oh, she's so inspiring. I want to be like Adriana. So that's amazing. And you should be proud of yourself.

Adriana Ostapenk  26:26

Thank you. Thank you. I love that. And that's really where I find that my mission is my purpose is. And whenever I'm talking to somebody, and they say to me, Hey, we talked last year, and out of that conversation, a shift happened in my life where I made this decision about my business, or I learned something or I went ahead and got that property, that nothing else beats that feeling for me of being able to in one conversation through telling my story, through telling the things that I've learned in my life, that can shift and change somebody's reality forever. And the direction they're going with their lives for the better. And like, this is really my purpose.

Alfonso Cuadra  27:06

I love it so much. I want to continue this conversation. But you know, the time is up. But this is what I'm going to say. We're going to continue we're going to do often. And I know that you bring so much value. What do you live by? What inspires you? Yeah,

Adriana Ostapenk  27:22

I'd say, live your dream reality today.

Alfonso Cuadra  27:27

So many people wait, you know, when the interest rates come down, then I'll take a vacation. And then it's like when this happens, then I'll do that, you know, but yeah, live it right now. I love it. I love it. Thank you so much. I love you to death. You've inspired our people. Alfonso loves you. We'll see you at the top. Let's go!

Carl Richards  27:49

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